Day 37 (2011)

{The video recording begins about 15 minutes into this session.}

0:45 - Boat ramp - deaf man man objects to praying - turns in his Bible to Moses at the burning bush - God made me this way.

OT Objections to God's Will to Heal All

3:45 - OT objections to God’s will to heal all - We challenge the NT through the OT - We are in a new covenant through His blood. People say all the time, “Well what about…?” and they bring up how the Lord struck, killed, etc. and it is Old Testament (OT) all the time.

4:05 - And we say “What about Job?” (If it is always God’s will to heal all, why did He strike Job? Why did He allow Job to be struck?) We say that because we are confused because we haven’t seen the healings we have prayed for happen. And our minds are scrambling and searching. We challenge the New Testament (NT) through the OT, comparing the two.

4:35 - With these OT objections you subverting faith - And the promises are to those who believe - You are subverting your ability to believe. And the promises are to the believer. When you have questions like this it reveals that you are not fully persuaded, fully convinced - a believer. It’s the reason why we are not seeing a lot happen.

➡ 5:05 - What we are going to look at now (OT objections to the will of God to heal all), we have already covered this in class. And after this I am not taking any more OT questions. I am going to nail it and settle it and not keep covering the same ground.

5:45 -  There is blindness in the church with regard to Jesus’ teaching on healing - I am concerned that there is a blindness on the church that we can’t see what Jesus is saying. Why don’t we honor Jesus more than the OT writing? If He is the way, the truth, the life, why are we still saying, “What about Job?” Why aren’t we saying, “What about Jesus?” It is stumbling us as a people and dividing us.

6:10 - We blame God for sickness and lose our will to stand and fight - And if you put it on divine order - sovereignty - God’s choice - (if you put the blame for sickness on God) you are taking off your sword, laying down your shield, and opening up yourself for “whatever will be will be.” You are settling on, “It’s God.” And you have lost the fight in your faith. And there is no reason for weapons of warfare. And that is what we are missing.

6:45 - If it is God’s will, why do I have a sword and shield? Why do I have promises or His word?

6:55 - Settling on God’s will to heal all must come first - How can I heal if I don't know that He wants to - He told me to go into any city and heal THE sick. How can I do that if I’m not sure that He wants to? And if I go out there and don’t see the sick healed and I shift gears because of my experience, it means that I am not established in the faith and rooted and grounded in the first place.

Jesus Addressed the Failure to Heal in Mt. 17

God's Sovereign Choice Wasn't the Issue - Unbelief was the Issue

7:20 - When Jesus explains the disciples’ failure to heal, He indicates that it has to do with what is going on in the disciples. Mt. 17 - Epileptic boy - When the epileptic boy wasn’t healed, Jesus said it was a faithless, perverse generation, meaning our minds are twisted, our minds are corrupt and we have unbelief. Jesus heals the boy. When the disciples ask, “Why couldn’t we heal the boy?” Jesus said that it was what they were failing to see.

7:50 - When Jesus explains the disciples’ failure to heal, Jesus didn’t use the explanations we use - sovereignty - Was it the will of God to heal the boy? (Yes, obviously so, because Jesus went on to heal the boy.) Was he healed when the disciples prayed? (No.) Was it the will of God to heal the boy? Was he healed when the disciples prayed? Oops. Jesus didn’t say it was divine order, the sovereignty of God or the wrong timing. He said it was the way you all see and think or don’t see and think.

Jesus Surpasses the Old Testament Revelation

8:35 - The OT language is not applicable to the new covenant - It's been superseded - I understand all of that OT language is there - how the Lord struck and killed. It’s not that I am trying to say it’s not there. It is there. But it’s another covenant. It’s the law of sin and death. It’s man without God. It’s man living in his own ingenuity and strength without the Spirit of God in him. It’s actually every man dead in his spirit.

9:00 - The OT was not the final word - It pointed us to Jesus who is the final word - There is a price and pain for sin. The whole world lies in the sway of the wicked one. The ruler of this world - the god of this world… When man fell, he didn’t just sin, he took on the nature of God’s enemy. And we were all born into that fallen state of sin. There is a price to all of that. There is pain to all of that. It’s a mess. The law tutored us to Christ. It’s all pointing to Christ. It’s revealing through all of this stuff our desperate need for a Savior. And He has come.

Reliance on OT Revelation Leaves Us Short of the NT Reality

➡ 9:50 - We shirk the privilege of healing by hiding behind OT passages - We put the blame and responsibility back on God -  I’m going to show you a couple of scriptures and I don’t want you to be confused with those OT questions anymore. Because here is what happens. One of the biggest tragedies in the body of Christ is when we find indifference through the OT (when we become indifferent about pursuing healing because of passages we pick out from the OT) - and build our belief on the OT apart from Christ - and find a reason not to have the responsibility and privilege of carrying the kingdom. And just putting it all back on God, when God put it on us. And it is a privilege.

10:45 - You set yourself up for loss and the callousness, confusion and powerlessness that comes with it - When you hold to the belief that it is just divine order - the sovereign choice of God, you set yourself up for loss. And in the long run, after enough loss, you are confused and can’t even love God because there is so much loss. There are a lot of people who can’t worship, fully convinced of His goodness, because they are looking through glasses of much loss.

11:30 - Not getting established allows the loss to escalate and continue. If you believe something that is not of Christ, you put a ceiling on the power of God. How are we ever going to grow if we settle on a belief that is less than Him?

12:35 - We use to OT to hide from the pain of knowing that we were supposed to have done something - People who are proponents of finding an out through the OT are covering over great loss. They are trying to explain great loss and find a place to hold their heart and keep it alive. Unfortunately the way we are doing it isn’t the answer because it steals away the hope of increase and God’s power. And that actually puts it back in the hands of God, when He called us to subdue the works of His hands.

13:35 - We are somebody to God. That is not exalting man. That is exalting God’s impression of us.

➡ 14:10 - I want to chop this OT lie up. I don’t want you struggling with OT questions after today.

15:15 - We have a blindness to what the Bible teaches about healing. We are so busy thinking and talking that we are not hearing with our hearts. We are not being humble with our hearts. We are being opinionated. And it’s because we have feelings and we try to live by them instead living out of our hearts. Our minds take precedent. Knowledge puffs up. Quest for knowledge was a twist in the garden.

God Spoke Definitively Through Jesus

15:55 - If God has spoken directly, clearly and definitively through Jesus why are we giving overriding weight to OT teachings on God’s will to heal? - Hebrews 1:1-2 - God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; - So God is speaking through Jesus. So it’s not about Job. It’s about Jesus.

16:40 - Jesus is the revelation, nothing else - He has spoken. It’s like 1 John 4:9 - In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. In this - singular - love was revealed… As in nothing else. In this love was manifest, that God gave His only begotten Son.

17:00 - Live through Him - follow Him - That we might live through Him. To live through Him is to follow Him - to pursue Christ-likeness and being the body of Christ - the embodiment of His power and anointing. Our questions on whether or not it is God’s will to heal from OT scriptures subverts our very ability to carry the authority that He gave us.

17:45 - Be persistent to carry the kingdom - Let your heart be established in God's will to heal. Be a persistent person that won’t back off. Parable of the persistent widow and the judge. How much more will God answer His children who cry out to Him day and night. However when the Son of Man returns to the earth, will He really find faith? If He came back right now, He wouldn’t at large. He’d find a lot of questions, confusion and unbelief. People who have come to believe and know who He is and who we are because of Him and living through Him. He wants to sober us, shake us in that realm.

19:35 - Commissions to heal - Matt 10; Luke 10; Matt 28; Mark 16. In three of those four, immediately after the commissioning He said to heal the sick. We are still questioning the will of God to heal when God has spoken through His Son.

20:20 - When you are not ready to fight (because of OT passages keep you from being established) you are setting yourself up for more loss - Fighting the NT to defend your losses does not heal your heart. If you believe that God orchestrates sickness then you are just set up for loss. You are saying to the devil, put it on me because I will never fight it. You are setting yourself up for more loss.

20:50 - Not everything that happens is orchestrated by God - Biblical examples - The Bible says you can prolong your days - in several places. If you can prolong your days you can cut them short, if you do the opposite. The Bible says that because we don’t discern the body (we don’t understand the significance of Jesus’ body being broken) that many are weak, sick and died early. It doesn’t say God ordered that. So is it the sovereignty of God that causes that? It marvels me that we still have the questions.

23:00 - Hot dog / corn dog analogy - Accept no inputs other than pure truth - Participant’s truth / hot dog analogy - If truth is a hot dog. Darkness wants to keep us away from the pure experience of a hot dog. So what does darkness do? It tries to add to it. It tries to present to us a corn dog. Just enough to where we have a hot dog but to where we have so much stuff added onto it that we miss the pure experience of eating a hot dog. Find the secret place and talk to God to where there is no input except pure truth.

24:40 - The enemy targets the belief system because every promise is to the believer - If every promise is to the believer and you were the enemy, what would you try to scramble? The belief system of every person. These signs shall follow those that believe... He who believes in me will also do the things that I do… Jesus said these things and we are bringing up OT analogies to trump what Jesus said when He is the way, the truth, the life. And in these last days God has spoken through His Son… Jesus never said no to healing - turned someone down - or say that it was the sovereign will of God that you are in this condition.

26:00 - Suffering for Christ - That scripture is not talking about sickness but persecution - 2 Cor 1:5 - For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ. - He never calls sickness the sufferings of Christ. “Well, I’m suffering for Jesus, brother.” We suffer persecution for Jesus not sickness. The sufferings of Christ is persecution - being judged unjustly. Jesus was never sick. The sufferings of Christ had nothing to do with sickness. Jesus suffered injustice every day - gossip, backbiting, misidentifying, the pride of man defining Him.

28:00 - Letting your heart get critical. Be careful. Most of these people have great loss.

29:25 - Heb 1:1 (continued) - He has spoken… God is setting the record straight through Jesus. Men didn’t receive Him or know Him. It shows how twisted we were.

30:00 - Counterfeits to truth - additives. In the sexual arena - the most exploited - because there is such an amazing, holy potential there. You don’t counterfeit one dollar bills.

30:40 - Intensity of opposition to healing. Must not be reading Bible with open heart. Jesus is the one talking about healing constantly. Commissions - with Him that He might send them out to heal.

31:30 - Healing was shelved somewhere back in the past - Multiply what I have given you - healing, delivering, cleansing, raising. Teach them what they see in you. But something along the way got muddy. An epileptic boy scenario popped up somewhere. And Jesus wasn’t standing there to address it so man addressed it with his mind.

32:45 - Our continuing questions reveal that we don’t have our eyes on Him. We have our eyes on our feelings and experiences. And we are honoring our mindsets way above His word.

33:00 - Jesus is the absolute revelation of the Father, not the OT - Heb 1:3 - Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; - So who is Jesus? The absolute revealing and picture of the Father.

The Image of the Invisible God

33:45 - Jesus is the light, not the OT - Colossians 1:13 - Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: - When man fell, he entered into extreme, utter darkness. In the beginning there was chaotic darkness. But God brings order from the darkness. God caused light to shine. It’s the same thing He did when He brought Jesus to the earth. He caused light to shine in darkness. And that light is in us. And life and light go hand in hand. It’s not the light of the OT. It’s the light of Jesus - the life of Jesus.

35:00 - God is not orchestrating darkness - In Him is no darkness - He has delivered us from the power of darkness. So is God subcontracting darkness? No, you are delivered from it. Is He using darkness? God is a God of light and in Him there is no darkness at all.

35:50 - Col 1:14 - In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:  - Why do we have redemption? Because sins are forgiven. So sin and its power are totally destroyed and we are snatched out of darkness and conveyed into the light.

36:20 - Jesus is the definitive revelation of God - Col 1:15 - Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: - He is the image of the invisible God. Hebrews 1 says he is the expressed image of the Father.

37:00 - We are set free from the old law to be under the law of the Spirit of Life - So Jesus is on the earth. I understand that the story of Job is in the Bible. I understand that what Moses said at the burning bush. I understand that the OT says God struck this person and that person. There are a lot of instances. I also understand that there is a law of sin and death. There was handwriting and ordinances against us. But Jesus took it away, nailing it to the tree, making a public spectacle of the powers and principalities that operated through it. So I wonder what was working through it to hammer human beings? The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus HAS SET ME FREE from the law of sin and death - Rom 8:2. What don’t we understand about that. There is a new law. It’s called the Spirit of life through Christ and it has made me free from the law of sin and death - that even means the wrath, the punishment, the consequences. You are not going to sell me - “You make your bed, you sleep in it.” There is repentance on the the earth so you can be cleansed and be completely clear in the matter. That doesn’t teach easy grace. That teaches integrity and sincerity of heart and getting sober minded and living diligent - giving no place to the devil.

Our Father

38:40 - Jesus is the definitive revelation of the Father - John 14:7 - If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. - God has always been our Father. We just didn’t know it.

39:10 - God is your Father - Recap of salvation - Adam committed high treason. Adam died on the inside. You were predestined before the foundation of the world - God intended for you to be adopted as sons and daughters. Why do we have to be adopted? Because we were born into another and now we are born again. What we were born into was not our parents. Your heritage is from the Lord. Your inheritance is from the Lord. Pray “Our Father…” Jesus was telling us that we don’t even know who you are or where you are from. We were all born into Adam - alienated from God, wicked. Jesus comes because of the truth of who we were created to be, to restore our destiny, our legacy, identity, inheritance. He snatches us out of darkness and back into the light where He saw us from the beginning. Jesus was saying that God is for us (not against us) - that we were brought forth and birthed by God in the beginning.

40:25 - Call no man on earth your father - God is your Father - Matt 23:9 - And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. - Call no man on earth your father. He’s talking to people under the law of sin and death. He didn’t shed His blood yet. But He is here. He is talking to people who are lost, degenerate and tells them to call no man on earth your father. These people were cynical. They were getting ready to crucify Him. He is sowing seeds. He’s prophetic. He’s manifesting love. He’s saying, the reason you are about to do what you are going to do is because you don’t know your roots, your inheritance and who you are. But if I be lifted up, I will draw all men unto me. I will show you who you are.

42:00 - He said to those sinners, you have one Father and He is in heaven. That means I came from Him and I belong in Him and heaven is my root created value and inheritance. Why do we not understand that, when it is all through our Bible? Because of that corn dog thing. We hear other stuff.

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43:00 - Don't try to teach through your pain - You shouldn’t try to teach the gospel if you have pain issues because you will teach through your pain. And you are the steward of your heart and you will answer for that one day. Don’t let many of you be teachers. There is a stricter judgement in that day.

44:00 - Not everything that happens is the will of God - If everything is the sovereign choice of God, why did He put the power of life and death in our tongue? If it doesn’t matter what you say, but what God ordains, why did He put the power of life and death in your tongue. If men are destroyed for the lack of knowledge then how can it be the sovereign choice of God? In all your getting get understanding. Get the knowledge, stop destruction. If men reap what they sow, how is that possible if everything is  divine order and the sovereignty of God. If everything is the sovereignty of God, you don’t reap what you sow. You reap what God intends.

45:00 - Jesus comes to set the record straight. And Jesus doesn’t say any of the stuff we say about God. You just see Him healing the sick and doing good - healing all who were oppressed by the devil - certainly not oppressed by God.

God is Seen Clearly Through the Son

45:30 - See God clearly through the Son, not the experiences of our lives - John 14:7 (continued) - If you had known me… Do we really know Him? You would have known my Father. From now on you know Him. From now on we ought to know Him. He is expecting us to know the Father because Jesus is the visible image of the invisible God, the expressed image of God. We are still trying to see the Father (determine who He is) through life and circumstances. We say, “Because this didn’t happen, God is obviously this…” It’s total deception. It subverts faith and your ability to believe. And you are back to square one as if Jesus never came. You are letting life define God instead of the life of the Son of God.

48:00 - John 14 - v.8 - Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. - Jesus just said from now on you have seen Him. And Philip raises his hand like a student and says show us the Father. He just doesn’t get it yet.

48:20 - Jesus is the clear revelation of the Father - not the OT - not the experiences of your lives - v.9 - Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? - So long - Some of us have walked with Jesus for a lot of years. Have I been with you so long and you are still trying to find me through life? Still defining me through what did and didn’t happen?

50:00 - v.10 - Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. - Do you not believe? When you have seen me, you HAVE seen the Father. Are you still trying to find the Father through circumstances, through the OT? Do you not believe? That’s the question to the church.

Jesus Demonstrated God's Willingness to Heal

50:30 - The Father’s instruction to heal is heard through Jesus' words - This is not all the bright idea of Jesus when He said, go preach and heal the sick. Who was saying that? The Father. Jesus had 70 more and said the same thing. Who was saying that? The Father. He is not speaking on His own authority. Jesus said I always do the things that please Him.

51:20 - The Father wills to heal - When the leper said, I know that you can heal me if you are willing. And Jesus replied, I am willing. Who said that? The Father. And we say, "Yeah but if He doesn’t heal, it means He is not willing." Show me that in Matt 17 with the epileptic boy wasn’t healed. That’s not what it teaches. Jesus shows that it was the will of God.

52:00 - Every promise is yes and amen - Jesus takes away the middle ground - We live in “maybe He will, maybe He won’t. Let’s pray and see.” The promise is to the believer. In 2 Cor 1 Paul teaches that men are indecisive because they live in the flesh. Matt 5 - Let your yes be yes and no be no. Anything else is from the devil. Jesus takes away all middle ground - believe and not question. And yet we question all the time.

53:25 - I honor the life of Jesus - above opinions - I love you, I don’t honor your opinions. I understand some people are in pain and I can try to minister to that pain. But I am not called to honor your opinion. Don’t be wise in your own opinion. Be wise in the Son of God.

54:00 - Self-reinforcing belief - everything that happens is God's will - Here is the paradox - When you believe that everything that happens is God’s will, the more loss and the more unanswered prayers you experience, the more it affirms that belief. You go, “See...See…told you so… see. But the whole church was praying… see.” But where is the whole church praying from? From not knowing who we are - once again driven by need. There is no authority in that - if there is no faith - if there is no understanding.

54:50 - v.10 - Everything you see in my life is the Father working.

55:00 - Reading verses in context.

55:30 - The reason for repetitive preaching. Because what is being talked about is so important.

56:30 - v.11 - Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. - Believe me because of the life that I am living - the works themselves.

56:40 - The first man I saw healed - 3 mo. saved - man was going to have a fusion - friend at work - bone on bone in vertebrae - Jerry - Dan prays - Is that it? That’s all I got - Thanks for the gesture - walks away the same way - It’s not works - It’s His grace and mercy.

Step Out & Love Somebody

102:30 - Get in the game - It's not about healing but getting your hands on the sick - If I don’t swing the bat, there can’t be a hit. We think it is about healing. No, it’s about getting your hands on the sick. The first sign of a believer isn’t healing the sick but putting your hands on the sick. The fact that we don’t put hands on the sick means that we are still trying to figure this thing out. Just go, get your hand on somebody. That’s a believer.

103:20 - Jerry (continued) - 3 hours later - back healed - new x-rays, totally whole - comes back to work on regular duty.

105:10 - Hold onto faith - Even when things don't change immediately - When healing doesn’t happen immediately. We say, “I wonder why God didn’t heal?” We show our lack of faith, lack of understanding. We are living by our experience, living by senses, living by reason.